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Police say car in deadly accident should not have been on the road

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Story Created: Aug 19, 2008 at 6:28 PM EST

Story Updated: Aug 19, 2008 at 6:28 PM EST

FRANKFORT - Frankfort Police say the car involved in last weekend's accident that killed two Utica teens should never had been on the road.

They say the car wasn't insured or registered, had a fake inspection sticker and its license plate belongs to a man in North Carolina, whom they are trying to notify.

Police say the investigation continues but they feel speed was the major cause of the deadly accident.

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Friday, Aug 22 at 10:29 AM what?? wrote ...

A car shouldn't be on the Road,,,Yes, blame the car.. These 2 didn't have their license to drive, and do not blame the parents of their rebelling.. Teens are the parent and the parents are the teens.. We need to take control of our children and not our qovernment

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Friday, Aug 22 at 9:51 AM Why? wrote ...

I do not understand why these people all come here? If they dont want to live by our laws then go back to the "mother land" Oh wait then you parent wont have free medical care food stamps,heat,rent etc.It's time the goverment quits giving every imigrant a free ride! Oh wait you work and you or your employer get tax breaks I DON'T! Also my family served this country and earned everything they have!So I can write what I want here, I'm sorry two kids are dead but what they did was beyond stupid!

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Friday, Aug 22 at 9:45 AM tom wrote ...

God Bless America and it,s citizens, no matter what nationality. God created every-one in his image, to love and have compassion for every-one , and not be self-righteous Pray for the Family of the victim's.

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Friday, Aug 22 at 8:47 AM Russians boyfriend wrote ...

Yes he is good with his hands! He works me over while he study! And he doesnt pay taxes!

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Friday, Aug 22 at 1:17 AM unbelievable wrote ...

i think that all of you are stupid ppl who have nothing better in ur life to do than talk bad about these innocent kids that died. there dead for gods sake so leave it alone. nothing is going to change it. they made a mistake and they paid it with their lives. may they rest in peace and for the rest of you GROW UPP!!!!!!!

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Thursday, Aug 21 at 7:58 PM Proud Bosnian wrote ...

It wasnt on the road, it was airborne

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Thursday, Aug 21 at 7:09 PM "I am a parent,too." wrote ...

let's not think of the boys anymore,people,...let's FOCUS mainly on the grieving parents/families.The boys'aren't here to 'defend'themselves.The families "need time'to 'grieve'.Let them at least have that,for now.(I have a 23 yr. old,who HAS made some wrong decisions,BUT,he HAS learned from them.WHEN he does get into trouble,I refuse to bail him out,unless I know ALL the details,of what got him into the mess)Again,PLEASE let the families of the deceased,grieve their...loss,at least for now.T/Y..

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Thursday, Aug 21 at 6:22 PM omg, end it ppl, its a week old now... wrote ...

this is to.... "haters haters haters" hey, want ur comment turned in as a threat? heres ur comment buddy "i hope i catch one of ya on james street, then people will be posting online about you" yeah, wutchu gonna do if one of us goes on james street, put a cap in r head? dont even get me started on cornhill issues lol

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Thursday, Aug 21 at 6:06 PM amazed wrote ...

let me tell you they are not the only ones to break the law. thank god they didn't hurt anyone else. but i blame our justice system for a lot of things that happen or continue to happen. did you know for every 10 cars that drive by you there is at least 1 drunk driver. also do you think anyone that has their license taken away for drunk driving or other violation they all continue to drive WHATS WRONG WITH THAT PICTURE???????????? OUR SO CALL JUSTICE SYSTEM ALL TAX PAYERS ARE BEING SCREWED!!!!!!

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Thursday, Aug 21 at 3:50 PM Russian wrote ...

To all of you jealous haters. I can work and study, fix and build, therefore I drive a nice car and live in a nice home. This country is an equal opportunity, so anyone with brains and hands can do the same! To bad all you know how do is charge up your credit cards...

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Thursday, Aug 21 at 3:16 PM Nauri wrote ...

some of the comments here are awful...mean,hate filled and badly spelled! Whether they were immigrants,or americans...driving a bmw or a clunker...none of this matters. @ very young men lost their lives in a horrible accident,and two families are grieving over a loss that is beyond words to describe. Instead of spewing venom,we should be showering the families with prayers,love and sympathy.There is enough hate in our world,don't be one of those who adds to it!

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Thursday, Aug 21 at 2:46 PM Are you kidding? wrote ...

HOw many of you people posting these horrible remarks sped as teenagers? How many of you raced on Rt 365 or Pennystreet Road? You are the lucky ones that survived. We all did stupid things as teenagers.

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Thursday, Aug 21 at 2:45 PM ordinary person cont... wrote ...

its just so sad to see people pass jugdement. Just goes to say and show that nobody is perfect and we all break the rules and not one single person on earth is without fault. There was no guarantee that if everything was legal there would be no accident or deaths. May God be merciful to those that pass judgement and may He bless the families and friends in this time of sorrow and grief.

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Thursday, Aug 21 at 2:39 PM ordinary person wrote ...

I can't believe most of these comments. Who gave anyone the right to judge?! Look at yourself and be your own judge. I don't think what happened had anything to do with the parents. Parents can only do so much. They can do everything that's in their power but the boys decision was their own. Not saying what they did was right but I dont think that if either one of them had a license or the car was registered or not or insured and all the other things, that that could have prevented everything...

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Thursday, Aug 21 at 2:20 PM mj wrote ...

i cant believe some of you people talk bad about immigrants and how great your county is, but cant even spell some words on here... show some respect...

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Thursday, Aug 21 at 10:52 AM Pepe Ed wrote ...

LOL!! "me wrote YOU AR SOO STUPED" . you can't make this up!!! back to Remedial Ebonics!

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Thursday, Aug 21 at 10:48 AM Gina's Bosnian girlfriend wrote ...

Dat b write jina! Ya tel dem girl!I be got me da BmW 2! i Be kool, commies rule!

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Thursday, Aug 21 at 10:04 AM to USA wrote ...

who ever wrote at 8:41am yesterday, please be a man and show ur face to the public, cheap names???? and the tree is missng some bark??? u'll be missing a face if you come across me

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Thursday, Aug 21 at 9:12 AM Sick people wrote ...

If you ever want to lose faith in humanity, read the comments from users section like this one on the internet. We are ALL immigrants in this country unless NATIVE American. Please note that Native American does not necessarily mean BORN HERE, which some of you seem to think. Native Americans are the people who used to be called INDIANS. Got it??? WKTV - get RID of this entire comment section. Or make people use their NAMES as they would in an editoria

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Thursday, Aug 21 at 8:56 AM randy wrote ...

The MAJOR contributor to all of these problems is the refugee center. They have supersaturated the area with immigrants, and burdened the taxpayer to the teeth. Let's see how rome welcomes all of this. The refugee center needs to close or move to another state. We are overburdened here.

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Thursday, Aug 21 at 8:53 AM tip wrote ...

The saddest part of all of this is that this isn't where it ends. There will be others that continue to do the same thing. The cops and schools need to crack down on the salvage cars the kids drive. The schools need to check out the car's paperwork and the kids license before he can use the parking lot at Proctor. They hired cops over there and this should be part of the routine. Regular traffic stops of the kids that drive up and down Hilton would probably have a high yield of unlicensed kids

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Thursday, Aug 21 at 8:24 AM Wow wrote ...

GOD BLESS AMERICA the rest of you go back to your bombed out third world countries! And to all these boo hoo blogers..this is AMERICA brave people fought to give us freedom of speech!And Utica Teacher, yes you wouldnt have a job if these people didnt come here so I understand why your a TOOL!

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Thursday, Aug 21 at 2:43 AM justme wrote ...

well the saying goes those who point a finger 3 fingers point back at the one who is pointing..nobody is perfect but gee american or not they did pay the ultimate price.

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Thursday, Aug 21 at 12:26 AM haters haters haters wrote ...

to all haters, lets go to one graduation party and put undercover cops and see how many underage drinkers there is and how many sit down to drive, most of you who judge immigrants are pathetic, i hope i never come across any of you on the street, i am black and i knew both of these kids and they were great honest friends, sure they didnt obey the law but dont tell me all u hypocrats drive 30 on parkway, i hope i catch one of ya on james street, then people will be posting online about you

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Thursday, Aug 21 at 12:18 AM TO ALL AMERICANS FILLED WITH HATE AGAINST IMMIGRANTS wrote ...

I PERSONALLY KNOW AN AMERICAN PERSON WHO GOT COUGHT SPEEDING 111 MILES OVER THE LIMIT IN FROM OF McDonalds IN SOUTH UTICA ON A GENESEE ST IN UTICA DRUNK AND HE GOT AWAY WITH A SLAP ON THE WRIST CUZ HE HAD CONNECTIONS ....SO ITS FINE TO DO 141 IN DOWNTOWN AND NOT GET PUNISHED AND NOT MAKE IT TO THE PAPER ... OH WHY .. IT WOULD MAKE AMERICANS LOOK BAD BUT IF IMMIGRANTS DO SOMETHING WRONG ALOT OF PEOPLE HAVE TO KNOW AND SAY SOMETHING NASTY ABOUT IT RIP SERGE AND VITALIY

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Thursday, Aug 21 at 12:07 AM IMMIGRANT FROM BELARUS wrote ...

hey to all the people that know people that get everything for free... is there any way you can let me know where you sign up for free stuff cuz in my second year in bachelors in engeneering i would not mind some one paying $6600 for my college and the past college bills..... also i would not mind a freee house , nice car , and lets not even talk about taxes or any other things like gas or food. SO WOULD YOU PLEASE LET ME KNOW I WILL BE VERY THANKFUL..ALSO WILL SHARE

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Wednesday, Aug 20 at 11:55 PM bosnian wrote ...

me wrote YOU AR SOO STUPED

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Wednesday, Aug 20 at 11:34 PM AlienUFO wrote ...

CONTINUED FROM MY PREVIOUS COMMENT... I feel bad that the elderly generation of immigrant fall for these kids' stunts. I live across from a Russian family and the parents are friendly but the oldest kid is a lil nuts. He and his friends speed by my house and it's a 30mph zone. My neighbor too also has forged plates. This kid drove that car uninsured unregistered un-everything. And that's right after he got in trouble for last month's ordeal. Obviously the lesson wasn't learned. ugh disgusting

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Wednesday, Aug 20 at 11:16 PM AlienUFO wrote ...

Ok everyone. Since every-one else is commenting on this incident and sharing their opinions, I would like to share mine. It is definitely sad that the two teens got killed in this car accident and I myself feel sorry for the families of each. What they are going through must be unimagin-able. However, it's impossible to SURVIVE IF YOU HIT A TREE FROM SPEEDING! DUH. The whole younger generation of immigrants act like our public roads are part of the DAYTONA500. I feel bad that the elderly...

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Wednesday, Aug 20 at 11:00 PM OKAYYY WOW wrote ...

okay "UC" honestly what diference does it make to you if they had a bmw nothing so get over it. and first of all they were not bosnian they were russian and so what stop being racist about it is that a good example to set for your kids? i knew the boys from school they were the type that would put someone else infront of them to please them & care for them my heart goes out to their families rip guys =[ you will always be remembered & missed =[

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Wednesday, Aug 20 at 10:46 PM WKTV is a complete disgrace wrote ...

How can WKTV allow people to spew their hate? There is no respect at all. If these families had any kind of political connection, this article wouldn't have been released in the first place. What happened to all the coverage when the son of Utica OD's editor, Donna Donovan, left the scene of an accident while he was intoxicated? He was also underage and could've killed the man. Why didn't WKTV or Utica OD investigate who served Andrew Donovan with the alcohol? Why? I know...

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Wednesday, Aug 20 at 10:32 PM Where is the love? wrote ...

After reading most of the comments on this page, I'm disgusted and appalled at the lack of respect. Two families are grieving from this terrible tragedy. Where is the love? Why is there so much hate? Remember this - America was founded by immigrants and each of us not born to a Native American tribe indigenous to this country is indeed, the son or daughter of an immigrant. May this understanding open our minds, as well as our hearts.

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Wednesday, Aug 20 at 5:45 PM To USA wrote ...

You make me ashamed to be an American. Do you ever wonder what your life would be like if you’d had enough oxygen at birth?

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Wednesday, Aug 20 at 5:32 PM Darwin Wins wrote ...

Scoreboard... Darwin 2 - young russins in wrecked BMW 0...

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Wednesday, Aug 20 at 4:56 PM Please... wrote ...

Inform us if the parent were ticketed for these violations. Honestly, there should be some charges filed against the guardian of these children. That is negligence. I'm sick of people coming here and free-loading. I have close friends that do it and it is sickening. Some end up back in their native country after the government support runs out. Yet, more people come and do whatever they want, and we pay for it.

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Wednesday, Aug 20 at 4:26 PM To ALL wrote ...

This is the age when teens make mistakes, no one deserved to die! HAVE SOME HEART PEOPLE! Challenge me if you never made mistakes at this age! And remember you never know what can happen to you or your kids! Don't be so quick to judge! These kids were great kids!(ask parents and friends) Their mistake cost them their life, and brought great deal of sorrow to all who knew them! Pls show some respect,and be HUMANS! Maybe, your next mistake will cost YOU a lIFE!

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Wednesday, Aug 20 at 4:25 PM sb wrote ...

Lets see....speeding, 3 points, no inspection, just a fine.....no insurance, a fine and privleges suspended....unregistered, a fine......which all boils down to about $1000 in fines and a loss of license for about 6 months...None of the accused violations add up to the death sentence that these young boys got, sure it was their decision at that time....but they didn't deserve it. I'm sure we ALL did crazy stuff at some point in our lives, but we didn't deserve to die for it. Peace and prayers.

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Wednesday, Aug 20 at 4:18 PM discusted wrote ...

It sickens me to read some of the comments from "american's". Why do we need to turn this tragedy into a ethnicity war. Many american teenagers have lost their lives in similiar situations and many more have made similiar bad choices but were lucky enough to live and talk about it. I pray that all of you posting these horrible comments never have to feel the pain of losing a child like these families have.

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Wednesday, Aug 20 at 4:08 PM lol wrote ...

UC should talk...u all drive cars that have been wrecked and you drive them like you bought them new..go back to your country of poverty!

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Wednesday, Aug 20 at 3:28 PM Anonymous wrote ...

After reading half of the posts here critizing these boys and their nationalities, I got sick to my stomach. Don't all you negative posters realize these boys paid the ultimate price for their misdeeds and unlawful act? They paid dearly - with their lives. Their families will have to carry around this heartache for the rest of their lives. Placing blame right now is a heartless thing to post when these families are looking for some comfort and answers of why this tragedy had to occur.

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Wednesday, Aug 20 at 3:19 PM Russian wrote ...

DIDnt you come from an Foreign Country!!why don't u send yourself back to where u came From!!

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Wednesday, Aug 20 at 3:17 PM george wrote ...

Everyone should be made to use thier own names when posting. It is amazing how "brave" people get when they do not have to face the consequences. For gods sake, they were 17 year old kids! Nobody deserves that fate, I don't care where they are from.

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Wednesday, Aug 20 at 3:15 PM Legally Challenged wrote ...

What a country we live in. Such a authoritarian system that requires its people to register their vehicles, have insurance on them, for their own good as for the protection of others, and to take the time to learn the rules for operating a motor vehicle and EARNING a drivers license- no entitlement here! Next thing you know the government will levy taxes on its citizens. Be it ever so humble, there's no place like home!

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Wednesday, Aug 20 at 3:13 PM MOFO wrote ...

SPEED KILLS....DD

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Wednesday, Aug 20 at 3:09 PM Utican wrote ...

Condolences to the family. Tragic and sad. Two young men with future ahead now gone. My prayers go out to their family and friends.

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Wednesday, Aug 20 at 2:09 PM GINA wrote ...

ECXUSE ME FREE CAR...WE WORK OUR ASSES OFF TO GET WAT WE GET!!! AND THESE BOYS WERE GREAT KIDS THIS COULDVE BEEN ANYONE ONE OF US SO WAT IF SOME OF THE TINGS WERE FAKE NOT LIKE EVERYONE IS PERFECT IT'S SAD ENOUGH THEIR PARENTS HAVE TO GO THROUGH THEIR YOUNG SONS DEATHS BUT THE COPS ALSO WANTY TO GET SOME MONEY OFF OF THEM THAT IS SO SHAMFUL...I CANT BELIEVE IT AND I MISS THESE GUYS VERY MUCH BUT YET I KNOW THEY'LL BE IN HEAVEN...I LOVE U GUYS AND MISS YOU...MAY GOD HELP TH FAMILIES GET THROUGH T

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Wednesday, Aug 20 at 1:37 PM local chick wrote ...

Kids do something stupid and they DESERVE to die?? In that case we'd all be dead by now! Or is it simply because they're immigrants that they deserve to die? Hmmm..good thing YOUR immigrant relatives aren't here to see what you've written--unless you're relatives have the last name of HITLER. You negative commenters are SICK. And NO, I'm not an immigrant--but my great, great grandparents were--FROM ITALY. These are kids for God's sake! Have some freaking compassion!

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Wednesday, Aug 20 at 1:12 PM just born in the usa. wrote ...

hello how many adult native americans do we have who drive without license inspections up to date are how bout drive 100% legal. how many have ran a stop sign or red light almost killed a innocent bystander do they deserve the same fate? probably not after all they were born in the good old usa. have a nice day

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Wednesday, Aug 20 at 12:56 PM PR - Con't wrote ...

Just remember that no matter where they are from or what their names are, they were kids, teenagers, who yes should have known better. All you haters posting are lucky, you made it thru those years- how many people do you know that haven't!

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Wednesday, Aug 20 at 12:56 PM An American at Heart wrote ...

Kirk you are 100% correct. Its sad but I see so many immigrants who could care less about our laws. Also they dont concider themselves americans, just asked them. But they come here and take everything we give them. Check it out they all by bmw's and fix them up and cause many problems. Just like the drunk who killed a person. Go to proctor park and you will see dozens of bmw's. Im sure they are all illegal too. Clean them up please Utica police. They are KILLING OUR AREA.

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Wednesday, Aug 20 at 12:55 PM Sad wrote ...

Most of the comments posted show why prejudice is still around. Unless your of Native American decent all of our families are immigrants. And there is not one person out there that can say they've never made a stupid mistake especially as a teen. Unfortunately these kids will never be able to learn from their mistakes. They lost with the ultimate price - their lives. Show some respect for their grieving families.

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Wednesday, Aug 20 at 12:55 PM not unexpected... wrote ...

Anyone who has been exposed to the antics of young male refugees from Eastern Europe would not be surprised by this accident. Their misbehavior at Marcy town pool made them persona non gratis there.

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Wednesday, Aug 20 at 12:49 PM pitter wrote ...

hey leave them alone what 17 year old doesnt break the law they were not in cornhill shooting each other where is peoples compassion .these parents have to deal with t5heir childs death! im sure no one wants to be there. and who really knows what theyre 17 yr old is doing 100%

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Wednesday, Aug 20 at 12:45 PM justice wrote ...

The responsible adult(s) for the teens should be charged for complicity re: the vehicle. They should not be let off the hook because they "didn't know" it was against the law. Who knows how many other things are going on that they "don't know" is against the law, (e.g., raiding dumpsters and construction sites for building materials, drinking and driving, etc...)

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Wednesday, Aug 20 at 12:43 PM just a heart wrote ...

can you tell me why people have to be so cruel. saying goes dont throw stones. you may be in the same situation are worse . then what!!!

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Wednesday, Aug 20 at 12:34 PM Ouch wrote ...

First, condolences to the families involved. We are not meant to bury our children. Second, the shock factor: 2 things, the loss and the shock that if they had taken an innocent bystander, there would be no recourse for compensation for the victims family. This is also shocking. Had they killed your or my child in the process, of course we would be outraged, as well we should. Beware! You may get zapped by the finger of fate and not be able to do anything about it because of people like this.

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Wednesday, Aug 20 at 12:07 PM utica teacher wrote ...

to some of the people who blogged on here making fun of their names and regardless if they car was not registered, etc. a life is still a life and their family is probably feeling awful losing their children- you should have more respect and stop being narrow minded.

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Wednesday, Aug 20 at 12:01 PM ME wrote ...

There is alot of arrogant people here, HMM yes that means u as well as PATTERN? these 2 people for example have nothing better 2 do in there lives then 2 talk down on people who r no longer alive. Yes it may have been there fault. But were u there 2 witness? i didnt think so. Some may look at ur comments and wonder what would make a person say such a thing. others may say it should have been them behind that wheel.great job 2 represent the american. I bet u voted Bush BRAVO!

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Wednesday, Aug 20 at 11:54 AM Christian or not wrote ...

Christian or not, we all make poor decisions. Native born Americans or not, we all make poor decisions. I hope when I die, someone will remember the good decisions I made and not focus on the poor ones. My condolences to the families and friends of these two young men.

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Wednesday, Aug 20 at 11:52 AM me wrote ...

I think that all of those ignorant comments coming from sad people who may have alot wrong in their lives have nothing better 2 do then 2 be on wktv.com putting racial comments about two teenagers who lost there lives. It very well could have been one of our children. As it was said previously, that age is a curious age. No one cares how old the car was or where they got the car from or what nationality.I am an american however what makes anyone think that we are better then ne one else.GROW UP!

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Wednesday, Aug 20 at 11:44 AM anon wrote ...

Illegal plates, fake inspection stickers...hmm illegal doings..now they're gone.. sounds like instant Karma to me.

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Wednesday, Aug 20 at 11:11 AM mom wrote ...

Why do they keep these blogs going? They are so negative. The fact is the two people who died were someones child. It doesn't matter what their nationality was they still were human beings and their parents should get the same respect as anyone else.

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Wednesday, Aug 20 at 11:07 AM Rest in Peace! wrote ...

This reply is especially directed to “NO SYMPATHY.” I wonder if you ever broke the law by… hmmm let’s say by speeding 10 miles over the limit. In that case, maybe you deserve repercussions in a lesser degree… let’s say losing a leg. After all, you broke the law. And to the one that said, “send the family back where they came from we have enough criminals dont need any from other countries to.” I wouldn’t be so sure Americans want the likes of YOU either…. MY sympathy goes out to the families

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Wednesday, Aug 20 at 10:58 AM TO ALL wrote ...

I WAS BORN AND RAISED IN THIS AREA. I HAVE 4 OF MY OWN CHILDREN. YES I AGREE THAT THE PARENTS SHOULD HAVE BEEN MORE RESPONSIBLE WITH THE CAR. PEOPLE WHO ARE BORN AND RAISED HERE ARE JUST AS LIKELY TO DRIVE A CAR ILLEGALLY SUCH AS THEY DID (ASK MY EX-HUSBAND). KIDS ARE JUST AS LIKELY TO SPEED TO SHOW OFF FOR THEIR FRIEND (DIDN'T A NEW HARTFORD GIRL JUST DIE LAST YEAR). IT DOESN'T MATTER WHERE WE COME FROM. IT WAS AN ACCIDENT AND I SYMPATHIZE WITH THE FAMILIES. GROW UP PEOPLE.

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Wednesday, Aug 20 at 10:43 AM red white and blue wrote ...

Oh Sergey you drive car like granpa drive farm tractor. Now come inside and eat your Borcsh.

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Wednesday, Aug 20 at 10:26 AM NB wrote ...

I cant believe what some of these people are saying, yes they drove a car illegally, but their lives have suffered, their families are suffering ! Please have some respect it doesnt matter if you have lived here your whole life or for two years or from another country, it is a terrible accident and their characters should not be destroyed by negative people. do you know how many americans break the law??wktv should really review these and not allow such inappropriate negativity

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Wednesday, Aug 20 at 10:25 AM NM wrote ...

HEARTLESS PEOPLE! How dare you post negative comments about the kids who are now being buried and of the parents who are in mourning beyond measure! How dare you judge someone's behavior who you didn't even know! I'm appalled by these despicable, ignorant people - during someone’s time of despair! For you biased ones - if it wasn't for immigrants - AMERICA WOULD NOT BE!

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Wednesday, Aug 20 at 10:10 AM resident wrote ...

I cannot believe the ignorance and hate in this area. Two young men are DEAD. doesn't anyone care about that?

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Wednesday, Aug 20 at 10:04 AM Salvaged wrote ...

For those complaining that they drive BMWs and for those Russians who brag that they drive BMWs remember they are salvaged vehicles which are very cheap to buy at a salvaged auction and they are not fixed correctly which makes them cheap. Most of us choose to buy a new or used reliable car for the same price that they get their BMWs for. Also because they are not fixed correctly they cant pass an inspection so they cant register the vehicle or get out of state plates to trick the cops.

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Wednesday, Aug 20 at 9:58 AM to all these gay Americans!!!!!that are trying to be racisit!! wrote ...

Ok People why don't u all Just SHUT UP!! It's all Over now,they are dead.And dont be jealous because u cant afford a BMW and waste it all on Alcohol and Drugs.these young men did not do drugs! and all of u ppl are making stupid comments about them cuz ur just jealous that they had a better car and Life than You.BTW everyone here is an Immigrant.so ur all talkin to yourselves.these guys were very nice people, Better than all of you!!!

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Wednesday, Aug 20 at 9:53 AM anonymousgirl wrote ...

i'm not saying EVERY russian is like this, but hear me out. Does anyone else notice that the majority of russians in utica receive medicade and fidelis, foodstamps and HUD housing, and don't work a day in their lives. Meaning the US taxpayers pay for everything these people have. Yet they all seem to be loaded despite this and have BMWs and expensive "cool" cars and clothes, watches and what not...seems alittle sketchy that all these people who dont work have so many expensive material things.

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Wednesday, Aug 20 at 9:41 AM Mean People wrote ...

Are you kidding me right now? These kids are human beings and they are dead now! Whether they broke the law or not they are paying the ultimate price!!! Let it go! Their parents will live with this for the rest of their lives, and who are we to say anything about it? Wow...I feel bad for anyone who has to deal with you people!

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Wednesday, Aug 20 at 9:37 AM Anonymous wrote ...

They were just kids. American or not! I'm an American and people make us all Americans look bad with all your HATE!

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Wednesday, Aug 20 at 9:03 AM What wrote ...

Someone called ANONYMOUS blogs that people are hideing behind computers! Your a true american tool! We have the right(that people fought and died for) to write and say what we please! Ask any of these imigrants if that was one of the many reasons they came to OUR country!These two young men broke the law and now are dead. THANK GOD they didnt hit or kill anyone else!

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Wednesday, Aug 20 at 8:58 AM Anonymous wrote ...

Some of these comments are quite harsh- I definitely don't agree that these young men got what they "deserved." However, GRAMMA- I couldn't agree more. I know at 17 I would never have gotten out of the house in a car that was unregistered, uninsured, etc. While their parents may have thought they were doing right by their children by giving them expensive things, they would have been much better off giving them more attention and guidance. Cars don't matter much when your children are gone.

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Wednesday, Aug 20 at 8:50 AM joey wrote ...

At any one time in the Proctor student lot, you will find lots of bosnian kids cars unregistered, unlicensed, and uninspected. The school needs to check these things along with the cops they hire before they let them park there---and then check back again.

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Wednesday, Aug 20 at 8:47 AM Anonymous wrote ...

What's whit all this about BMW's. What these russian nuts won't drive Fords.

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Wednesday, Aug 20 at 8:45 AM kirt wrote ...

The refugee center should teach respect for the law along with their instruction on language, food stamps, medicaid and how to work the system. The parents are primarily to blame for this. They had to have known the kid had no license and yet they let him drive a vehicle that wasn't road ready. They should have had more sense than a 17 year old.

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Wednesday, Aug 20 at 8:41 AM Wow wrote ...

Negative is an American and because someone broke the AMERICAN laws(and thank god didnt run into anyone else)and got killed we all need to be sad! Nope, whats sad is we all say they where such good,GOD faring young men!Nope,it's not what you say, it's the walk you walk!

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Wednesday, Aug 20 at 8:41 AM USA wrote ...

I saw the tv footage. all these KIDS have names like cheap vodka. Your in USA now. Now that poor tree is missing some of it's bark.

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Wednesday, Aug 20 at 8:38 AM USA wrote ...

Just another case of these russian kids doing what they want. they do nothing now than swap plates on cars and break the law. Yea my heart bleeds. Their above the law.

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Wednesday, Aug 20 at 8:30 AM Anonymous wrote ...

Wow. They were 17. The driver made a fatal choice as many young people of all nationalities do every day. Remember the 5 cheerleeders killed, speeding and text messaging? No excuses, but a bit of grace. I could have been killed several times at that age. It's a foolish age - or can be. A great kid (in 99 ways) can be a stupid kid in 1 way, and it can cost him (and yes, others) their lives. I'd like to focus on how they were great kids. Deepest condolences to the families.

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Wednesday, Aug 20 at 8:24 AM UC is a TOOL wrote ...

Hey UC, I'm driving around legaly in my 10 year old Honda,very much alive!I do not think it's "COOL" being placed 6 ft under in a wrecked BMW.your a TOOL!

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Wednesday, Aug 20 at 8:23 AM Anonymous wrote ...

Ignorance is bliss. Does anyone realize the BMW was a 1998? It's not like they were driving around in a 2008. The car is 10 yrs old. It's not that expensive. Maybe he got it for a graduation present. You people that make ignorant comments on here are low lives who think their lives are perfect but hide behind a computer. Most are racist and prejudicehave have problems in their own homes. It could have been anyone. Stop all this hate on each other, that is why the world is the way it is now. RIP

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Wednesday, Aug 20 at 8:17 AM Negative wrote ...

You are all so negative. Yes, what they did was wrong but they are no longer here with us anymore. Know the saying "if you have nothing nice to say don't say it at all" Your cold hearted people. What if they were your children? and FYI I'm American.

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Wednesday, Aug 20 at 8:11 AM Wow wrote ...

Great young criminals! Gotta love those Russians! Thank god they didnt run into anybodt else!

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Wednesday, Aug 20 at 8:08 AM gramma wrote ...

Some people seem to feel that laws don't apply to them--and the longer they get away with avoiding & evading rules,regulations, and laws, the bolder they become. These young men must have felt that way--AMERICA--land of the free--but there is a law above man's--and His rule's are NOT so easily broken. And then there is one of the rules of nature---drive an unsafe, unispected car,go 90 MPH--hit tree.........now there is another law that cannot be broken.

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Wednesday, Aug 20 at 7:47 AM me wrote ...

i dont care if they were good kids, they broke the law plain and simple. if they were alive today, i hope they would be serving time. I guess you dont have to be drunk to kill someone either. Just stupid.

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Wednesday, Aug 20 at 7:44 AM another reader wrote ...

Is it my eyes are are a couple of these blogs completely incoherent? Ie:Victoriya and UC? English lessons anyone?

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Wednesday, Aug 20 at 7:43 AM Billy Billy Billy wrote ...

What do you expect people to think when they read the facts. Regardless if they were taking the car out for one last spin, it was done VERY illegally. You sound as though you hate Americans, then why are you here. BTW not all of us are drunks/druggies, some actually are here because we were born here & are proud to live here, some even obey the laws & work hard for what we have. sorry about your friends but lets be realistic here. May God be with the families.

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Wednesday, Aug 20 at 7:17 AM tsk tsk wrote ...

pepe ed that was a bit harsh, dont ya think? No one deserves what they recd. Two sides to every story...but regardless, death is not something to be deserved.

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Wednesday, Aug 20 at 7:14 AM me wrote ...

I guess the two boys were not as smart as everyone says they were or they wouldn't be where they are today.regardless if they took it for its last ride the inspection sticker was FAKE you cant tell me they put that on before the joy ride NOT stolen plates also they knew what they were up too!!!!! you play with fire you always get burnt!!!!!

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Wednesday, Aug 20 at 7:09 AM A few things. wrote ...

Regardless if it is a BMW or a Yugo, any parent should be aware enough to know that their kids are driving illegally. Keep in mind that even if these KIDS played by the rules and were licensed, registered and insured, would the outcome have been any different? Final note, WKTV should be ashamed to post some of these tasteless comments on here. I’ve attempted to post comments before that were no where near as bad as some of these and they never made it online. Will this one make it

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Wednesday, Aug 20 at 6:17 AM brad brookings wrote ...

the simple fact is, come over here;do things right or get the hell out. Do things wrong AND!!!!!!!!

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Wednesday, Aug 20 at 6:01 AM all losers wrote ...

See we let them come here for free ride and that is what this kid did took a free car ride ( no legal plates, insurance, registration) every thing I pay for we just give to the free loaders. Oh ya fogot he was going to go to college gor what? probably because it was all payed for with FREE goverment grants. these people are big free loaders lets stop giving and instead help our own people Sorry they past away but if they where not in that free car they would be here today!!!

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Wednesday, Aug 20 at 6:01 AM Wow! wrote ...

I can't believe how some people are rationalizing the actions of these two boys. An illegal car, is an illegal car. Does it make you feel better to justify that they were taking it for "one last ride"-Please! I understand that they families must be hurting, but your responsible for your children until age 21. Anything my daughter did up to that age, I was responsible for. The family needs to take responsibility for this, and the people who had this party. Thank God no one innocent was hurt!

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Wednesday, Aug 20 at 5:57 AM Voice of Reason wrote ...

"For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God." ...whether they're saved or not.

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Wednesday, Aug 20 at 5:34 AM UC wrote ...

This is pattern, and in America we can voice our opinion as long as it is within the scope of the law. Where as your post is threatening in nature and hating. If your so unhappy in this country go back to Bosnia. Believe me, I can afford a BMW if I wanted to foolishly spend my $ on that type of thing. BMW's are only important to those who,feel they have to prove something, esp. 17 y.o.'s. I'd rather keep my $ in the bank, and spend it on something important like driving lessons for my teen!

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Wednesday, Aug 20 at 4:27 AM kids are kids wrote ...

you should be a shame of yourselfs i pray this never happens to your family May GOD help you

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Wednesday, Aug 20 at 4:23 AM Kids are kids wrote ...

May God help you all. Two young men are dead . You people need to sit back and think about if it was your child To post hate like they are criminals and should go back to there own countries they were kids and i know you never did nothing wrong as a kid .... you make me sick to think that you would think and post your comments like ::Am I the only one that doesnt feel particularly bad about all this? And send the family back where they came from we have enough criminals dont need any from other

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Wednesday, Aug 20 at 1:34 AM Pepe Ed wrote ...

Could this have been MORE illegal? - try pulling this off as a CITIZEN of the US .. got just what they deserved, plain and simple .. The End.

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Wednesday, Aug 20 at 12:07 AM sandy wrote ...

Regardless of the fact that the car shouldn't have been on the road....two young lives were lost regardless of their nationality. And I am so sick of collision garages who put automobiles on display in fron of their garages in which occupants have died! The car from this wreck is right on route 12 for all to see!

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Tuesday, Aug 19 at 11:57 PM Anonymous wrote ...

he took everyting off like incurance and plates jst bc he was seling his car and he took it for the last drive before sale.

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Tuesday, Aug 19 at 11:50 PM BILLY wrote ...

its really nice to point fingers at immigrants at the time of tradegy and not notice americans that are drunk and driving or on the other hand most of them cant afford a car to drive cuz they have spent all the money on alcohol or DRUGS. and unless you are native american you are immigrant too so just think twice before you point fingers at people cuz it just points back at you

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Tuesday, Aug 19 at 11:34 PM you wrote ...

everybody was saying ohh these kids were so upstanding and church goers and they werent even following the law..should go back to there own country and break laws there instead of coming over here and messing stuff up. makes me look at foreigners different now

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Tuesday, Aug 19 at 11:31 PM victoriya wrote ...

HMM get alive u need to go back to ur mothers stomach just to let u know people make mistakes and everything is gods will it doesent matter where u come from or what kind a car u drive god gives got takes it was just their time. and i am very sorry to those families may god bless u.

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Tuesday, Aug 19 at 11:25 PM UC wrote ...

Pattern...u a punk posting blogs online..show ur face and say something...look at ur country, they stick their nose in everyone's business..show ur face and say something...and u "HMM" i wish i knew who u were because i would send u back where u belong...dont be hating cuz we pushing BMW's at age 20 and ur parents or you will never have one..

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Tuesday, Aug 19 at 11:24 PM someone wrote ...

who cares?? like it matters now anyway

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Tuesday, Aug 19 at 11:24 PM HELLO wrote ...

I have to side with HMM !!! Things are are bad enough in our state, and our county, stop these people it's the land of the free ... not free loaders!!!!!

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Tuesday, Aug 19 at 10:59 PM No sympathy wrote ...

No insurance, no registration, fake inspection, stolen plates, and obviously reckless driving. Am I the only one that doesnt feel particularly bad about all this? You wanna play with fire, at some point your gonna get burned. Just glad they didnt keill anyone else.

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Tuesday, Aug 19 at 10:58 PM A tragedy nonetheless wrote ...

but can you tell me that the family did not know that their kids were driving an illegal BMW?? Of course they did!!! I thought these were good religious families?? In their religion is breaking the law a sin? These were 17 year old CHILDREN. The parents should be responsible!! May they learn to live with their mistake and may these children rest in peace.

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Tuesday, Aug 19 at 10:04 PM Anonymous wrote ...

Wonder what the parents say now to themself

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Tuesday, Aug 19 at 9:15 PM Am I wrong wrote ...

to say that this all seems less tragic now?

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Tuesday, Aug 19 at 9:07 PM wow wrote ...

Say it's not so.

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Tuesday, Aug 19 at 8:44 PM Pattern? wrote ...

First of all this was a tragedy, so don't get me wrong. My heart goes out to the family of these young men. This is my concern. In the past 3 weeks there has been 3 motor vehicle fatalities involving young Bosian men driving BMW's. Perhaps the young men should go back to fundamentals, yes it is good to work and acquire things, but BMW's or other materialistic things does not make a man. Obeying the laws of the land really makes a man, in which none of these 3 kids did!

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Tuesday, Aug 19 at 7:45 PM HMM wrote ...

send the family back where they came from we have enough criminals dont need any from other countries to

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