New Hartford Taxpayers Not Keen on Town Building Proposal

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New Hartford Taxpayers Not Keen on Town Building Proposal

By PAT BAILEY

NEW YORK MILLS, N.Y. (WKTV) - Since 1988, the New Hartford Police Department and the Town of New Hartford Court have been sharing the former highway garage on Kellogg Road. Now both entities say that it is time to move.

The building the town is looking to buy is at 19 Campion Road next to Madden Concrete. Town officials formed a committee to plan the move and layout the cost. However, some taxpayers said Wednesday that it is not a new building that is needed, but rather a new idea.

During a public meeting, New Hartford Police Chief Raymond Philo said the current municipal building is unsafe and crowded.
New Hartford Town Judge William Virkler said that crime has increased in the town so much,since Consumer Square and Route 840 were built and the court room is too small.

Former Chairman of the planning board and head of the committee to find a new building, Joe Yagey, says other options were considered but buying the building was the best. "We tried to get the solution that handles the problem we have today, and had the least amount of tax impact within the town," said Yagey.

The tax impact on the $1.7 million building would be an average of $12 per year on a home assessed at $100,000.

Frank Montecalvo lives in the village of New York Mills and the Town of New Hartford. Montecalvo says no matter the increase, it is not worth it to him, since he will not be using the building. "For me I get nothing of value for that extra money in taxes. The town gets a new facility, but do I get? It's a duplication," said Montecalvo. Montecalvo and other taxpayers urged the board to considered a consolidation plan and share a new court building with neighboring towns and cities.

"Utica and New Hartford depend on each other. They really need to start thinking as part of the same community as opposed to separate municipalities," Montecalvo said.

Yagey says that in time, consolidation is the answer. However, it will take too long to develop such ideas. Instead, he says that a fix a is needed now. "It could be a dangerous situation over there with the existing security the way it is," said Yagey. "If something serious happens in the near future, the cost to this town and the loss of any kind will far exceed that building."

If the town board goes ahead with this idea, they will put it up for referendum, allowing all the tax payers to vote on the issue. Town Supervisor Earle Reed says that is not something the board has to do, rather something they want to do.

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Friday, Dec 5 at 7:12 PM Frank Montecalvo wrote ...

To taxpayer10: Assuming you are correct, the law was changed to permit Utica to regionalize its water supply, which was a much more complicated affair. In this day of the state encouraging consolidation, it is inconceivable that the legislature would deny passing a law to allow two jurisdictions to agree to share a courthouse with each other.

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Friday, Dec 5 at 2:33 AM MadSpartan wrote ...

Its rediculous, even if its needed, for them to try and make plans like this with economic times so uncertain. This is especially a time to be fiscally conservative, not spend like there's no tomorrow. If any of the other antics of NH's officials weren't obvious before, this is the smelly dead fish that nobody can ignore. It is very good to see a turnout and a much needed vocal 'NO!' to this nonsense. http://newhartfordnyonline.blogspot.com/search/label/new%20town%20offices

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Thursday, Dec 4 at 11:07 PM Taxpayer10 wrote ...

Frankie: You are wrong - Check the law out - Courts have to be held in their jurisdiction - Know what you are talking about!

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Thursday, Dec 4 at 9:18 PM Town Tax Payer wrote ...

The New Hartford Town Court is NOT overcrowded. What is needed is better timing when holding Court. Perhaps, William Virkler, a licensed real estate broker should give up his real estate job and practice being a town justice full time, 5 days a week and 40 hours or more to do what is necessary to stop the overcrowding because of only a one or two day Court schedule?

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Thursday, Dec 4 at 5:56 PM New Hartford Resident wrote ...

The Campion Rd. building is a poor choice for many reasons but primarily for the traffic congestion and definite likelihood of many accidents. That area is already difficult to enter and exit. Building up in the current location will not alleviate the parking situation. Offering court more than once a week would be a short-term fix that wouldn’t be as costly while other locations are investigated. Sharing of space with other municipalities is an optimum choice.

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Thursday, Dec 4 at 2:39 PM SparkyGump wrote ...

"For me I get nothing of value for that extra money in taxes. The town gets a new facility, but do I get? It's a duplication," said Montecalvo. Typical self centered me first republican thinking. It's like when you hear them crying when school taxes go up but later complaining when the kids can't read or write. Didn't your mother teach you that you can't have it both ways? If you want a well run government; you'll have to pay for it. No wait! Let's keep borrowing from the chinese!

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Thursday, Dec 4 at 2:10 PM JC wrote ...

Maybe they could have court on a couple of different nights each week, this should/would alleviate most of the congestion. The PD should be out patrolling not hanging out in the court/police station any way. Enough with the higher taxes, I am sick and tired of getting nickled and dimed out of my paychecks.

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Thursday, Dec 4 at 2:00 PM John Smith wrote ...

What kind of interest does Judge Virkler have in that building? Wasnt his GF or something the listing agent?

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Thursday, Dec 4 at 1:30 PM Concerned Citizens - New Hartford wrote ...

We believe that Mr. Montecalvo is correct when reflecting upon "shared" services between towns, villages and cities. All to often, we have parochial interests which tend to cloud the underlying want vs. need. We further believe that Ralph Humphrey's Consolidation Team's recommendation to build upon the existing Sanger Bldg. with possible expansion was the best and most cost effective. Lastly, we still would have 19 Campion Road on the town/village real property tax rolls.

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Thursday, Dec 4 at 12:47 PM chadwicks tax payer wrote ...

Yes the court is crowded but they should have built the building bigger in the begining . why not just add upwards to the current building ?????

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Thursday, Dec 4 at 11:40 AM Tax wrote ...

Im glad i dont live in NH they just like to keep raising taxs move up north the taxs are a 1/4 of what they are in NH

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Thursday, Dec 4 at 8:37 AM wad wrote ...

make the mall and all other stores in new hartford pay to build the courthouse. new hartford is the shoplifting capital in the world. when all these stores opened up the crime rate skyrocketed.

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Thursday, Dec 4 at 7:44 AM Frank Montecalvo wrote ...

Utica has a brand new court facility on Oriskany Blvd that is easily reached from the Town. Small claims from the suburbs are already heard at City Court. Since City Court and Town Courts operate on somewhat different schedules, sharing Utica's new facility would seem to be feasible. All it would take is a plan and a formal agreement to share expenses. This is something that could be done quickly, and Taxpayers in both jurisdictions would get a break.

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